chooselifealways wrote:
cheezit01 wrote:
chooselifealways wrote:
And Transubtantion is certainly not a false doctrine. It was given to the Apostles by Christ Himself. Following apostolic Tradition, is the priesthood. Jesus made it very clear what the apostles were to do. Transubstantion is not reincarnation. Jesus becomes present in the Eucharist after speaking the words He intoned at the Last Supper.

No Evangelical Christian that I know of believes that.  I certainly don't, as you well know.  But what I'd really like to know is this.  Let's assume for a moment that every Evangelical church and Christian on the face of the earth is wrong and the Catholic church is right.  Just what, EXACTLY, does it do for you?
It changes nothing for me. And I categorically do not believe that at the Last Judgement there will be different circles of heaven, based on disagreed doctrine. So, as brethren, we are only separated by the things of this world. I'm sure there will be non-Christians taken up with Jesus if they have not learned of Him (like Saudi Arabians - Think of it as Muslim Camp). And there will those crying "Lord, Lord," who will not make it in the gate at all. I'm pretty sure Jim Jones is not going to go the way of his followers in eternity. Most of the People's Temple members were disenfranchised members of society, living on the fringe, and headed down to Guyana in search of a better life and freedom to worship. We all know that Jim Jones was a monster, so it's a pretty safe bet he won't be our neighbor in Heaven. Neither will David Koresh, Joseph Smith and Thomas Gumbleton. Across the board there have been scams and lies, but the grace lies in that Jesus will Judge us, not our neighbors. The people I worry most about are the people who cannot accept the trinitarian nature of God. God is the Father, God is the Son, and God is the Holy Spirit. That's all you need to know to be true. I do still believe that I am not going to leave this world stainless, and I suspect the most surprising thing that evangelicals will encounter is a thorough washing, just like the Catholics. I have a good friend (a very dear friend) who believes that Jesus was not fully human and fully divine at His conception, kind of like Glorybe. These are the people we should be reaching out to.

I'm kinda leaning on the Scientologists peeking in the gates with their tinfoil hats on...


The biggest scam is the False Prophet of Rome.  And that is not all one needs to believe "to be true".  There are plenty of people who believe in the Trinity, that doesn't make them True when they take up with false prophets, such as your earthly high priest.  If you do not leave this world "stainless" (which is not even the proper term or definition), you are still dead in trespasses.  Jesus Christ died so that no sin is imputed against those whom He has raised--no stains there.  "Washing" does not take place after one departs this earth.  Actually, I have yet to see proof of the claim that that is what Glorybe believes.  Thus far, I have only seen claims of his detractors.  Regardless of his insufferable behavior, I have never read a post of his where he has indicated this is what he believes--and believe me, I have gone through all his posts from long ago on a couple of sites in order to see if his accusers are right.  I have yet to find the proof of such allegations.  Making a Scientologist a catholic is not an improvement, but more like making him twice the son of Gehenna.  And your claims in post #41 are not Scripturally provable. 

Edited 1 time by ryld 11/18/11 5:30 PM.