chooselifealways wrote:
Thanks Ruth, but do you have anything more recent then nearly 11 years ago?

I don't know if you are aware of this, but on the first Sunday of Advent, many of the prayers translated in the confusion after Vatican II are changing; going back to the original vulgate.

And how else can you reach out to your separated brethren, except by calling a council of sorts? After the first one that JPII held that you cited, the High Anglican Church, and the Orthodox Churches want to return to full communion with the Catholic Church. Even the Lutherans are taking notice. 


We are not the "mystery" spoken of in Revelation.  I suspect it hasn't been revealed yet.

And Transubtantion is certainly not a false doctrine. It was given to the Apostles by Christ Himself. Following apostolic Tradition, is the priesthood. Jesus made it very clear what the apostles were to do. Transubstantion is not reincarnation. Jesus becomes present in the Eucharist after speaking the words He intoned at the Last Supper.
First of all CLA, I am going to share this with as much love as I can muster, so please DO NOT take it the wrong way.  What is so surprising that those you mention are supposedly heading back across the Tiber, if you actually do a study of church history, they were never really separated from Roman Catholicism to begin with.  Please go and read the writings of Calvin and Luther.  You will find their theology and most of their doggymas are ROMAN CATHOLIC, the ONLY thing they really insisted on is what Luther discovered in Romans: "The JUST shall live by faith", and that is found also in Habakkuk, Galatians and Hebrews.  Henry VIII NEVER really separated from the Roman Catholic church either, and IF you did research on the Anglican/Episcopalian church you will find out their liturgy, sacraments and teachings are also VERY ROMAN CATHOLIC.  And every single one of those believes in some form of transubstantiation/reincarnation, just as the Roman Catholics do, in fact most of all of them believe they eat their god too, including many Calvinists.  And that dear is only the tip of the iceberg.  All those dudes killed born again believers just like the Roman Catholic church did and still does, and IT IS going to happen again.

In fact, what Jesus told the apostles and the apostle Paul told the all those they preached to about what was going to happen to them in their day (exception the apostle John), that men would kill them thinking they were doing God service, when in fact they are slapping HIM in the face.

Jesus said: "Enter ye in at the straight gate;  for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction and MANY go in thereat, but straight is the gate and narrow the way that leads to eternal life, and FEW there be that find it."  Matthew 7:13 & 14.  And HE also said we are to beware of false prophets who come in sheep's clothing but underneath are ravening wolves. Same chapter.

And one more thing dear CLA, I am not your separated sister, the Roman Catholic church kicked out the TRUE CHRISTIANS, so it is they and their counter parts that have LEFT OUR FIRST LOVE, JESUS CHRIST not us.  In fact, the LORD brought me out of Roman Catholicism and brought me into HIS OTHER FOLD. John 10 and back to HIM who should be everyone's FIRST LOVE.

PSST, do you gobble your hubby?  Well if you don't eat him, you have no business claiming you eat JESUS.  Do you commemorate your wedding day?  Then celebrate the MEMORIAL OF JESUS death on the cross for you, by REMEMBERING what HE DID on that cross, and the blood HE shed to save your soul.

No amount of RELIGIOUS RITUAL, cannibalism, or baby baptism will get one into heaven.  Quite the contrary.


Mr 9:38 (KJV) And John answered him, saying, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name, and he followeth not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us.
39 But Jesus said, Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me.
40 For he that is not against us is on our part.